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cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the easier it's going to be in a few weeks from now. if they get a small deal that leaves no path forward on the bigger issues i think that we'll be here in a month and a half talking about the same things. >> thank you so much, meredith and david. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> a huge winter storm packed with snow and sleet out of the midwest and heading towards the eastern seaboard. blizzard warnings from arkansas to illinois. wintry mix is expected in the northeast. it's the same storm system that sparked a tornado outbreak in the south yesterday. these pictures of mobile, alabama. the twister c
cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the...
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democrats would point the finger at republicans for going over the fiscal cliff. >> that's been going on for a while as you well know, brianna, and as the president cuts his vacation short, we know what that means, are you cutting your working vacation short. >> i'll be back soon to see you. >> listening to those beautiful waves behind brianna. >> thank you. >> from brianna to rihanna, ahead on "starting point." rihanna and chris brown. what looks like more proof these two are back together again. >> a story trdrew has been watching very, very closely. >> you're watching "starting point" back after this. learnin, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. it's another reason more investors are saying... a hybrid? most are just no fun to drive. now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-p
democrats would point the finger at republicans for going over the fiscal cliff. >> that's been going on for a while as you well know, brianna, and as the president cuts his vacation short, we know what that means, are you cutting your working vacation short. >> i'll be back soon to see you. >> listening to those beautiful waves behind brianna. >> thank you. >> from brianna to rihanna, ahead on "starting point." rihanna and chris brown. what looks like...
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uncertainty about the looming fiscal cliff continues. there has been to communication between republicans and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been working on with president obama. >> republican strategist, frank luntz has been talking with voters, what is the chance you see this becomes the new compromise? >> i'm not sure if
uncertainty about the looming fiscal cliff continues. there has been to communication between republicans and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term...
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what i think they think is that we go over the fiscal cliff and sometime in the first week and a half, that's the political theater where the republicans can then cut taxes instead of raising taxes on anyone. and all will be well. i do think, however, the one thing that i'm worried about is the markets are okay with that, and they -- in our business we say buy the room or sell the facts. they price in this good outcome that happens the first week of january. then there's no reason left to buy. we priced that in and go lower. i did establish shorts on christmas eve. >> jim, good morning, it's seema. how you doing? >> good. >> good. you know, in terms of where we are at, in terms of fiscal cliff negotiations, how would you advise investors to invest in the short term? if you're watching the political rhetoric out of washington, how would you tell people at home to really invest? >> i think there's things that were beaten down hard for tax purposes in anticipation of raising a capital gains tax. it's a bad time to move into apple. things like intel. something that the market beat up all
what i think they think is that we go over the fiscal cliff and sometime in the first week and a half, that's the political theater where the republicans can then cut taxes instead of raising taxes on anyone. and all will be well. i do think, however, the one thing that i'm worried about is the markets are okay with that, and they -- in our business we say buy the room or sell the facts. they price in this good outcome that happens the first week of january. then there's no reason left to buy....
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the republican lawmakers are likely hoping that means he is rested and ready make a deal on the fiscal cliff. however, chief white house correspondent ed henry tells us that washington may have to set with a backup plan to the backup plan. >> christmas tradition for president obama. he and first lady michelle obama saying thanks at the marine corps base hawaii. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in and day out on behalf of the freedom and behalf of the security. >> now the president is giving up some vacation time rushing back to washington aboard air force one late tonight to deal with the looming fiscal cliff. after that red eye, the president will no doubt need coffee. starbucks decided to get political in the washington, d.c., shops, by having employees write come together on cups. ceo howard schultz writing in open letter, "my hope is the simple message will serve as holiday reminder from starbuck of the spirit that bridgeed differences and we have the power to come together and make a difference in every season of the year." the president and speaker john boehner have not spok
the republican lawmakers are likely hoping that means he is rested and ready make a deal on the fiscal cliff. however, chief white house correspondent ed henry tells us that washington may have to set with a backup plan to the backup plan. >> christmas tradition for president obama. he and first lady michelle obama saying thanks at the marine corps base hawaii. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in and day out on behalf of the freedom and behalf of the security. >> now the...
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: right. >> -- if this whole fiscal cliff disaster happens. patti ann: now how was it spun this way? there's a lot more being negotiated than just those tax rates for wealthy people. what about the fact that we have the $16 trillion debt, and these plans hardly do anything to address it? why is that not the focus? >> yeah, they do almost nothing to address it. even if the president got what he wanted in taxes which is raising taxes on americans who make above $250,000 a year, i think it would be about $850 billion over the next ten years, it wouldn't even be one year's deficit. so there, i mean, there are a lot of other things involved. republicans have demanded real spending cuts, mostly spending cuts in the entitlement programs. and what we've seen in the past few weeks is as that has been discussed among democrats, there's been a hardening of opinion that they really do not want to make any cuts or any trims really in any of the big entitlement programs, medicare, medicaid and social security. patti ann: all right. well, byron york, that's
: right. >> -- if this whole fiscal cliff disaster happens. patti ann: now how was it spun this way? there's a lot more being negotiated than just those tax rates for wealthy people. what about the fact that we have the $16 trillion debt, and these plans hardly do anything to address it? why is that not the focus? >> yeah, they do almost nothing to address it. even if the president got what he wanted in taxes which is raising taxes on americans who make above $250,000 a year, i...
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for going over the fiscal cliff. joe. >> brianna keilar in hawaii there. there's a fight over what programs to keep funding when it comes to the fiscal cliff and it's not just between republicans and democrats. to explain that is cnn senior political analyst ron braunstein. you talk about in this article that i just read, fascinating, two groups. the brown and the gray. what are the differences between them and how are they clashing now that we get closer and closer to the fiscal cliff? >> the brown and the gray is a phrase i've been using for the last few years to describe the two giant generations that will shape american life in the coming decades. the brown is the millennial, the most diverse in american history. over 40% nonwhite. the gray is the aging baby boom which is joining the silent generation in a huge senior cohort that is 80% white. and they have very different political inclinations, preferences and different interests at stake in the fiscal cliff and budget negotiations. on the one hand, taxes verse
for going over the fiscal cliff. joe. >> brianna keilar in hawaii there. there's a fight over what programs to keep funding when it comes to the fiscal cliff and it's not just between republicans and democrats. to explain that is cnn senior political analyst ron braunstein. you talk about in this article that i just read, fascinating, two groups. the brown and the gray. what are the differences between them and how are they clashing now that we get closer and closer to the fiscal cliff?...
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the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks says, hey, you know what? let's write on our coffee cups "come together." do you think anybody will pay attention to that in washdz? >> you know what? anything and everything helps. just merely spreading the message america is watching and waiting for congress to act to find a way to reason together, that's an important act, and everyone doing their part can do, i say good on him. we need to send this message to washington and make sure it isn't settled. we'll go deeper into this tonight at 7:00 as well. this is urnlggent. the clock is ticking, suzanne. >>> many american families have adopted children from russia, but that might actually be ending thanks tie controversial bill passed in russia parliament. because your daughty wants that pink castle thing. and you really do
the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks says, hey, you know what? let's write on our coffee cups "come together." do you think anybody will pay attention to that in washdz? >> you know what? anything and everything helps....
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about the fiscal cliff and the markets out there again could be very, very harsh if there is no deal. so i don't know about christmas cheer but i think there are certain political realities that say there's got to be something done, even if it's a temporary patch that allows them to say we're going to have the big vote in terms of the cuts and tax hikes and reform, you know, in a few weeks. but they have got to do something in the short term or they're going to be dire consequences. i don't think that is any hyperbole, kelly, it is just the truth. kelly: just the truth. bottom line so i let you go, what is your next guess, deal or no deal? >> i think they get some kind of deal. it may pass the january 1st, december 31st deadline to get the house vote but i think you will see something done. kelly: maybe a pared down version but something will get done. kelly, have a happy holiday. >> you too, juan. jamie: the taliban is claiming responsibility for a homicide car bombing in khost. it is at the very same base where seven cia employees were killed three years ago by a jordanian homicide
about the fiscal cliff and the markets out there again could be very, very harsh if there is no deal. so i don't know about christmas cheer but i think there are certain political realities that say there's got to be something done, even if it's a temporary patch that allows them to say we're going to have the big vote in terms of the cuts and tax hikes and reform, you know, in a few weeks. but they have got to do something in the short term or they're going to be dire consequences. i don't...
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saying that they think it's better to go over the fiscal cliff rather than go ahead and delay the tax increases and more importantly the spending cuts. the other thing you get out of that is if you allow the tax increases to go into effect a lot of those republicans think they have a better shot at tax reform next year when you instantly have a broader tax base. the numbers are sort of come complex. when the bush tax cuts went into effect fewer people had an income tax liability. this is what mitt romney was talking about last year with the 47%. if the tax rates increase you all of a sudden have more people paying income taxes and you just have a broader, higher rate to play with. next year when they come back they can get rid of some of the duck -ts and what not and lower the rates and overall have a lot more money in the system to play with, a lot more options. they think they are better shape for tax reform if they come back next year with the rates having gone up. >> reporter: and by not allowing the president to just add nah see um raise the debt level, they have leverage, don't
saying that they think it's better to go over the fiscal cliff rather than go ahead and delay the tax increases and more importantly the spending cuts. the other thing you get out of that is if you allow the tax increases to go into effect a lot of those republicans think they have a better shot at tax reform next year when you instantly have a broader tax base. the numbers are sort of come complex. when the bush tax cuts went into effect fewer people had an income tax liability. this is what...
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cliff. >> six days away. dana, what would majority leader reid have to add to the legislation to peel off just a few republicans, enough to get it through the house? i don't know if he would get widespread support from mitch mcconnell and the leadership, but just a few who are maybe retiring, or leaving the senate. >> reporter: that's a great question. first and foremost they would have to be able to swallow the idea that they will effectively vote to raise taxes on the top 2% of americans which most republicans said they do not want to do because they think it is bad for the economy. to answer your question, it is probably the biggest sweetener for republicans and seen some moderate democrats by the way is the estate tax. the estate tax is in place right now at a relatively low threshold. it would go up big time at the end of the year. and that is something that is very important to a lot of republicans. that could be a sweetener. i think probably the best argument the democrats have for some of those republ
cliff. >> six days away. dana, what would majority leader reid have to add to the legislation to peel off just a few republicans, enough to get it through the house? i don't know if he would get widespread support from mitch mcconnell and the leadership, but just a few who are maybe retiring, or leaving the senate. >> reporter: that's a great question. first and foremost they would have to be able to swallow the idea that they will effectively vote to raise taxes on the top 2% of...